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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:58 am  Post subject: What if some one you REALLY cared about converted to Islam? Reply with quoteBottom of PageBack to top
what would you do?

mom?
dad?


brother?


WIFE?

girlfriend?



I have no idea what I would do.

Converts are usually more crazy then normal Muslims.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:30 pm  Post subject: (No subject) Reply with quoteBottom of PageBack to top
I'd be devestated.

I'd try to reconvert them back to the hindu fold, and if that fails, I would cut off all communication with them, sever diplomatic ties and impose economic sanctions upon them.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:15 pm  Post subject: (No subject) Reply with quoteBottom of PageBack to top
i would try to talk to them... and help them realize what they are doin to them selves...maybe briefin them alittle about the religion they are convertin to...make them realize the differences between the two religions...and make them see reasons y they should b hindu...
and Dr. J i won't cut off communication with them.. because.. thats gonna be like racism.. and thats not rite... cuttin off communication is just cause more problems between religions.... its all up to God to decide the penalty for that person to face...
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 12:13 am  Post subject: (No subject) Reply with quoteBottom of PageBack to top
I would let them be...

Everyone has their own right.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 2:05 am  Post subject: (No subject) Reply with quoteBottom of PageBack to top
I would undoubtedly do the same as I did when they were a Hindu....RESPECT THEIR CHOICE.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 12:41 pm  Post subject: (No subject) Reply with quoteBottom of PageBack to top
ssinaya wrote:
Muslim women are supposed to throw whatever they are doin and attend to the husbands "needs" dude..anytime of the day...

Where can you find women like that??? Laughing


Laughing Take a guess......this world is crazy......if u look beyond hinduism and our culture.....they are many wierd woman that have no respect for themselves.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 2:10 pm  Post subject: (No subject) Reply with quoteBottom of PageBack to top
Arya wrote:
so if your wife converted to Islam and turned into an iconoclastic nutjob, youd just sit around and do nothing?


Yup, afterall not all Muslims are iconoclastic nutjobs. You are drawing conclusions about an entire religion based on the acts of several extremist terrorist groups.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 1:02 am  Post subject: (No subject) Reply with quoteBottom of PageBack to top
hence why I stated "what if" , reffering to that specific type of Muslim.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:45 pm  Post subject: (No subject) Reply with quoteBottom of PageBack to top
Options are simple - to my knowledge no one whom I care about is in the near by vicinity, if I find someone, I will pound with real knowledge on Islam so that they will never ever think of converting.

Of course, One guy sneaked into christianity, I did nothing about him, but when I met him after few days he was hindu again.

Given the situation of wierdness, I think

Mother or Father - I do not remain a son for them any more

Wife - Will get a divorce, no other spl provisions for divorce is required

Brother/Sister - They no longer remain as my brothers and sisters

Ultimately, all get the same treatment what I give to a practising muslim - will wait for another group clash to show the right place designated to them, probably
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 10:17 pm  Post subject: (No subject) Reply with quoteBottom of PageBack to top
Are we being a Hindu by doing all this? What provisions in Hinduism gives us the right to denonuce and dispell one for converting?

Hinduism does not stop anyone frm leaving. It gives its blessings.

So what are you guys when you do such things? Are you lot a "convenient Hindu", choosing to follow the dharma only when necc?

Think abt this!
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Hinduism does not speak of existenance of other religions as such but only speaks of existenance of other philosophies.

If, on conversion, one's philosophy changes, Hinduism welcomes it, but when the religion changes there is no established rules in Hinduism on what a person has to do.

Probably, You, dear SSinaya have a different set of rules and for some one else there might be something else.

Remember, Hinduism is vibrant and fully diversified, who so ever follows a path is right as far as that path is concerned.

I do not understand the term Convenient Hindu following dharma only needed - what will you say about Kapalis and Vamachaara practioners - Just think back they are also Hindu - for a Kaapaali, leaving his sect is result in death as in Islam, and it is part of Hinduism

Knowing few vedantin sects does not make in right hindu, dear SSinaya, and dharma is very wide for normal humans who use only 5% of their brain throughout their lives.

Think about this too!!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 10:16 pm  Post subject: (No subject) Reply with quoteBottom of PageBack to top
With no disrespect, when i mentioned Hinduism, i meant Sanatana Dharma.

I am least concerned with the practices of sects and such. I firmly believe that religion divides men. Spirituality unites. So my view point was firmly on the spiritual teachings, which is the cream of our "religion".

The fundemental teaching of our way is universal love. That all creatures are ONE. And a deep philosophy to let "Gods will be done". When we see the world frm this angle, it really does not matter if one leaves the religion or not.

A humans spiritual pursuit is personal. If its meant that he has to take a "longer road", then be it. Why should we stop the will of God? Or ostracise someone who chose his own way?

People have such harsh punishments for abandoning, purely for the reason of thriving. Its nothing spiritual. Will force ever give anything in return?

What i meant abt a"convenient Hindu". Again, with no disrespect. I was merely stating that sometimes, we choose to follow our dharma and sometimes we dont, esp when religious fevour runs into us.

SD has existed for millenias. Hundreds of religions have sprung up from then. But did our glory ever decline? No! Thats becos of the depth of our spiritual pull.

In summary. There are some who will wish for things to happen to them. Some will just say, "Let Gods will be done". If a relative wants to leave our religion, let it be. Its ok to tell them abt our religion. But we should not forsake them. If we do, we lose our true identity as Hindus, ones who embrace everyone, even enemies.

Hinduism is diversified, yes. But not its Spiritual aspect. So its which pair of glasses we want to put on, that matters. Spiritual or religious/vedantic? It makes a huge differece on how the world is viewed from then on!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:28 am  Post subject: (No subject) Reply with quoteBottom of PageBack to top
If we do nothing to stop conversion we will be destroyed. Why do you think Hinduism surivied muslim rule and british rule?
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ssinaya wrote:
With no disrespect, when i mentioned Hinduism, i meant Sanatana Dharma.

I am least concerned with the practices of sects and such. I firmly believe that religion divides men. Spirituality unites. So my view point was firmly on the spiritual teachings, which is the cream of our "religion".

The fundemental teaching of our way is universal love. That all creatures are ONE. And a deep philosophy to let "Gods will be done". When we see the world frm this angle, it really does not matter if one leaves the religion or not.

A humans spiritual pursuit is personal. If its meant that he has to take a "longer road", then be it. Why should we stop the will of God? Or ostracise someone who chose his own way?

People have such harsh punishments for abandoning, purely for the reason of thriving. Its a numbers game. Its nothing spiritual. Will force ever give anything in return?

What i meant abt a"convenient Hindu". Again, with no disrespect. I was merely stating that sometimes, we choose to follow our dharma and sometimes we dont, esp when religious fevour runs into us.

SD has existed for millenias. Hundreds of religions have sprung up from then. But did our glory ever decline? No! Thats becos of the depth of our spiritual pull. If our threory of reincarnation is right and one day eventually everyone will experience God, then the soul which becomes a Muslim will eventually be born a Hindu again and tread the path again. Why fret?

In summary. There are some who will wish for things to happen to them. Some will just say, "Let Gods will be done". If a relative wants to leave our religion, let it be. Its ok to educate them abt our religion. But we should not forsake them. If we do, we lose our true identity as Hindus, ones who embrace everyone, even enemies.

Hinduism is diversified, yes. But not its Spiritual aspect, which is the real and ultimate key. So its which pair of glasses we want to put on, that matters. Spiritual or religious/vedantic? It makes a huge differece on how the world is viewed from then on!


Can a Muslim not attain perfection?

When a Hindu converts to Muslim, is the soul, mind, or body converting?
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King Porus wrote:
If we do nothing to stop conversion we will be destroyed. Why do you think Hinduism surivied muslim rule and british rule?

if people want to convert, its thier own choice, and its none of your business (unless you know them or are related to them.)
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